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[bestillmybeating]

Dear all,
I noticed that french accordions usually have nailed reeds which are nailed on cork (the fresh word is liege, right), sometimes nailed on leather (fresh word is cuir).
Is it important for the fresh sound? I am asking this question because I just bought a vedette 10 de Cavagnolo, this is my dream instrument. I then noticed that zit is tuned to 405 Hz which was kind of unexpected but should be fine when I play with other musicians which can tune their instruments violine guitar etc.
The other thing I noticed is that the reeds are nailed to leather and I wanted to be them nailed to cork, so I took the instrument to cavagnolo Germany and they told me it cannot be nailed back to cork because the wood does not tolerate new openings for the nails, so he will put them on WAX (the fresh word is fire).
Dear All please tell me your thoughts about that, because I am in a fear that my instrument does not sound fresh anymore after he put the reeds on WAX.
Please let me know what you think and recommend.

Thank you so much

Christian

[bestillmybeating]

Dear all,
I repost the mail since my correction program automatically changed "French" to fresh, so here the corrected version:

I noticed that french accordions usually have nailed reeds which are nailed on cork (the FRENSH word is liege, right?), sometimes nailed on leather (Frensh word is cuir).
Is it important for the Frensh sound? I am asking this question because I just bought a vedette 10 de Cavagnolo, this is my dream instrument. I then noticed that it is tuned to 405 Hz which was kind of unexpected but should be fine when I play with other musicians which can tune their instruments violine guitar etc.
The other thing I noticed is that the reeds are nailed to leather and I wanted to be them nailed to cork, so I took the instrument to cavagnolo Germany and they told me it cannot be nailed back to cork because the wood does not tolerate new openings for the nails, so he will put them on WAX (the Frensh word is CIRE).
Dear All please tell me your thoughts about that, because I am in a fear that my instrument does not sound fresh anymore after he put the reeds on WAX.
Please let me know what you think and recommend.

Thank you so much

Christian

[Nick]

Normaly you have a classic french sound with a cavagnolo vedette 10.

From my point of vew, the most important point is the tune of the second flute of your accordion.

Its not necessery to change the fixation of the reeds.

May be vedette 10 owners can better answer you.

Musically.

[bestillmybeating]

Dear Nick,

I would like to have a americain tuning with very low tremolo about 1,5 Hz.
Unfortunately, Cavagnolo told me one needs to remove the nails and put everything on wax. Does anybody know if this influeces the sound?
I do not want to loose the nice frensh sound.

Thank you so much

Christian

[bestillmybeating]

Can anybody help?
Do you think it changes the sound if one has to chage from nails (clues) and cork (liege) to wax (cire) on a cavagnolo vedette 10?
Somehow it is not possible to leave the nails.

Thank you so much

Christian

[Mario Bruneau]

Hi Christian,

Never change the nails fixation to wax fixation on a Vedette 10 Cavagnolo or ANY FRENCH ACCORDION.

You will loose the real French musette sound.

The musette sound is not just obtained by tuning the reeds. It is also the nailing and screwing of the reeds to the reedblock that make it sound so rich with a lot of upper harmonics (overtones)

I have not (yet) translate my Accordion Guide in English but maybe you can check this video in French about the reedblocks and reedplates taken from my Guide Multimédia de l'Accordéon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTgL5vMGRpY

The mechanical coupling of the reedplate and the reedblock is very important in order to keep the energy. On waxed reeds, the energy is partly lost in the wax because it is too soft. The reedplate does move up and down in wax but not so when the reedplate is nailed or/and screwed to the reedblock.

Note that Cavagnolo use nails AND screws to fix the reedplates to reedblock.

Good luck with your Vedette 10.
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